LLMs, LRMs, and the Problem with Complexity: Can LRMs Scale?

When Apple drops an AI research paper, it’s not just the tech world that listens; security leaders tune in too. Their recent paper, The Illusion of Thinking: Understanding the Strengths and Limitations of Reasoning Models via the Lens of Problem Complexity, is no exception. It explores how Large Reasoning Models (LRMs), a more introspective variant of LLMs, actually perform when faced with structured reasoning tasks. This sparked thoughts across the AI and tech community.

Many were quick to label LRMs as mere pattern-matching tools, not true reasoning engines. But KK Mookhey, a globally recognized cybersecurity leader, CEO & Founder of Network Intelligence, had a different take. After deep-diving into Apple’s paper, he shared thoughtful observations on where LRMs stand today, and why they might be just what cybersecurity teams need for medium-complexity tasks.

Let’s unpack the research and KK’s insights, especially through the lens of LRMs in cybersecurity.

What Apple’s Research Really Found

Apple’s research wasn’t just another AI benchmark test. The team created a set of structured, logic-based puzzles, like the classic Towers of Hanoi, to evaluate how well LRMs could ‘reason’ through complex scenarios. The idea was to isolate complexity and analyze how different models performed as the problems got harder.

Here are a few key findings:

“Despite their sophisticated self-reflection mechanisms learned through reinforcement learning, these models fail to develop generalizable problem-solving capabilities for planning tasks, with performance collapsing to zero beyond a certain complexity threshold.”

In other words, LRMs do fairly well, up to certain point. As problem complexity increases, their ability to reason starts breaking down. Apple’s research also showed that:

“Comparison between LRMs and standard LLMs under equivalent inference compute reveals…For simpler, low-compositional problems, standard LLMs demonstrate greater efficiency and accuracy. As problem complexity moderately increases, thinking models gain an advantage. However, when problems reach high complexity with longer compositional depth, both model types experience complete performance collapse.”

Yet, push beyond that, and both LLMs and LRMs suffer. Apple noted:

“Near this collapse point, LRMs begin reducing their reasoning effort… despite operating well below generation length limits.”

This scaling bottleneck is important; it means LRMs can’t just brute force their way through harder tasks with more tokens. Their performance falls off, not because they run out of capacity, but because their ability to “think through” collapses.

Another notable point from research:

“In simpler problems, reasoning models often identify correct solutions early but inefficiently continue exploring incorrect alternatives, an ‘overthinking’ phenomenon.”

It suggests that LRMs aren’t just making fast decisions; they are simulating more cognitive deliberation. But unlike humans, who often use intuition to stop once a likely solution is found, LRMs lack that ‘good enough’ judgment. This leads to wasted computer, extended inference time, and sometimes confusion, even when the answer is already available in their early reasoning.

Another revelation that caught the eye was-

“The lack of systematic analyses investigating these questions is due to limitations in current evaluation paradigms. Existing evaluations predominantly focus on established mathematical and coding benchmarks, which, while valuable, often suffer from data contamination issues and do not allow for controlled experimental conditions across different settings and complexities.”

Existing AI evaluations fall short due to data contamination and a lack of controlled testing environments. This is because the sophisticated neural networks within these models learn from vast datasets, and if evaluation data leaks into the training process, it influences performance.

KK’s Take on, Is It Reasoning or Pattern Recognition?

So are LRMs reasoning, or just advanced pattern matchers?

KK states that pattern matching is somehow “lesser” than reasoning. Human reasoning itself is built on pattern recognition.

“What we generally refer to as ‘reasoning’ is very often pattern analysis. Humans excel at this. It’s cloudy, and it’s likely to rain. That person looks fit; they must work out regularly. We’re being pattern detection and pattern prediction machines when we do this,” says KK.”

From a cybersecurity standpoint, this idea hits home. Consider threat detection: spotting an anomalous login, recognizing a phishing domain, identifying lateral movement. These are all pattern-based observations, not lengthy philosophical reasoning.

LRMs, then, aren’t less pattern predictive. In fact, they may be mimicking fundamental human strength.

Complexity Isn’t Magic; It’s Recursion

KK dives deeper into how we define complexity.

He draws from Douglas Hofstadter’s Gödel, Escher, Bach, arguing that what we call ‘complex’ is often just nested loops of simple actions. Think of an ant colony or a firewall rule set. Each rule or behavior might be simple. But together, they form a complex system.

“Very often, it is the interlinking of recursive loops of patterns where ‘meaning’ arises.”

That’s crucial insight for cybersecurity leaders. Your SIEM, EDR, and SOC workflows aren’t powered by magic. They are built on predictable, repeating signals, layered, and correlated.

And that’s exactly where LRMs in cybersecurity can add value.

The Sweet Spot: Medium Complexity Tasks

This is where the real gold lies.

KK puts it simply:

“If current models don’t do well at highly complex tasks, that’s okay. How many of our real-world tasks are truly complex? Most of the work we do within a SOC or in pen-testing or in evaluating evidence to write up audit reports could be considered medium complexity at best.”

Here’s what that means for cybersecurity teams:

  • Security Operations Center (SOC): An LRM can help correlate alert data across multiple layers, adding narrative structure to logs and giving analysts quicker context.

  • Penetration Testing: When writing findings or evaluating risk patterns, LRMs could assist in mapping vulnerabilities to threat scenarios.

  • Compliance and Audits: LRMs could summarize technical evidence, cross-reference frameworks, and even flag missing controls in a structured way.

These aren’t chess matches. They are real-world, repetitive-yet-nuanced tasks exactly the kind of complexity where LRMs perform best, as shown in Apple’s research.

Final Thoughts: Let’s Be Real About Reasoning

No one is expecting LRMs to replace human threat hunters or compete with chess engines like Stockfish. That’s not the point.

“We don’t have to use LLMs or LRMs for every use case in the world.”

But for medium-complexity cyber security tasks, those where pattern recognition, contextual awareness, and structured reasoning intersect, LRMs in cybersecurity are already showing real promise.

They are not illusions of thinking. They are tools evolving to think in ways we recognize and can work alongside others.

And that’s just not good enough. That’s powerful.

 

Author

  • K. K. Mookhey (CISA, CISSP) is the Founder & CEO of Network Intelligence (www.networkintelligence.ai) as well as the Founder of The Institute of Information Security (www.iisecurity.in). He is an internationally well-regarded expert in the field of cybersecurity and privacy. He has published numerous articles, co-authored two books, and presented at Blackhat USA, OWASP Asia, ISACA, Interop, Nullcon and others.

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